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I am trying to run a large amount of sites which share about 90% of their code. They are simply designed to query an API and return the results. They will have a common userbase / database but will be configured slightly different and will have different CSS (perhaps even different templating).

My initial idea was to run them as separate applications with a common library but I have read about the sites framework which would allow them to run from a single instance of Django which may help to reduce memory usage.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/sites/

Is the site framework the right approach to a problem like this, and does it have real benefits over running separate applications?


Initially I thought it was, but now I think otherwise. I have heard the following:

Your SITE_ID is set in settings.py, so in order to have multiple sites, you need multiple settings.py configurations, which means multiple distinct processes/instances. You can of course share the code base between them, but each site will need a dedicated worker / WSGIDaemon to serve the site.

This effectively removes any benefit of running multiple sites under one hood, if each site needs a UWSGI instance running.

Alternative ideas of systems:

I don't know what route to be taking with this.

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  • what is your question?
    – gnat
    CommentedSep 17, 2013 at 11:45
  • It's the third paragraph, I want to know from a programming perspective if this a good way of approaching this problem in python
    – Jimmy
    CommentedSep 17, 2013 at 12:34
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    When the question isn't in a prominent place (start of the post or end), it can be useful to call it out by bolding it to make it easier to see.
    – user40980
    CommentedSep 17, 2013 at 19:22
  • This is a difficult one to evaluate. You need metrics and results to prove one method is better over the other (which most people won't have). If you're going the API way, then it will probably make sense to maintain each one as a separate instance, for benefiting the developer who may need to make distinct changes on each.
    – Joe
    CommentedNov 19, 2013 at 19:11
  • I know this is really old, but are you sure the SITE_ID affects the sites framework discussed in the documentation? This really seems like something for the Django team to help you out with. Have you checked their mailing list and/or IRC?
    – Zeroth
    CommentedApr 8, 2014 at 23:13

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Why are you optimizing?
You seem to be concerned about memory usage. Why? Is the projected savings large enough to let you rent a cheaper VM? Is the sites' current usage threatening to bust your machine's current RAM? (And even if they are, are you confident that your going to spend less on development time for this feature than you would for just getting a better machine?)

Let's assume you already asked yourself that...
And the unfortunate conclusion was that there is a compelling reason to optimize memory usage.

You are talking about putting in work and code infrastructure to link these sites into a single, optimized unit. If these separate sites are inextricably linked to each other in some way other than sharing the same code base, it makes sense to build physical infrastructure on top of that logical grouping. If these are functionally separate sites that just happen to use mostly the same codebase, I would advise to not even think about using a framework like this unless you've got no other choice.

What if one of the sites later wants to pick up a windows dependency (assuming the others are running on *nix right now)? What if one of the sites becomes so popular that it needs to be on a separate machine for performance reasons? What if the customer wants to relocate one of the sites for better response times in Europe?

Without any other details about what you are working on, creating an architecture that ties these sites together sounds like a pretty questionable endeavor.

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    I suggest putting your code into git, then using submodules to load your 'library' of shared code.

    If you read up on it, this sounds like exactly what you need:

    http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Submodules

    It often happens that while working on one project, you need to use another project from within it. Perhaps it’s a library that a third party developed or that you’re developing separately and using in multiple parent projects.

    We use this extensively and has worked well for our organization that does hundreds of deployments weekly of the same code with very minor changes to each version that gets deployed.

    My 2 cents.

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      Django will help you in that manner. You will redirect multiple sites to your Django instance, and the Django instance will use the API that can help you with saving through economies of scale, with VM costs/ API subscription costs, etc.

      In this context, I am assuming that you are not using limited free tiers, or you do not have complicated SLAs with your service providers (like the fair use of resources). Before redirecting all your sites into one Django instance (which will work on one server, and will use one API), please check your agreements that you do not have penalties or upper thresholds.

      One other aspect you need to consider is the user profiles and separate workloads of your sites. If overall workload will be too much, you will eventually go for a load balancer which will increase your number of instances. On the other hand, since it will be the same implementation working behind, development of the Software will be easier.

      For a precise answer, you need to investigate metrics, check your available resources and focus on the business case (the drive behind your optimization needs). Unfortunately, this is more art than science.

      Umut.

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        My suggestion would be to use nginx, uWSGI, and flask. nginx is robust and works well with uWSGI in Emperor mode. Beyond that Flask is super flexible for python coders so you should be able to quickly make the modifications necessary to take advantage of your shared code base.

        This blog entry should get you started.

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