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I am making a DIY Paralel Plate Capacitor with the dimension of 27.5cm times 4cm seperated by 80 gsm paper. Assuming paper thickness is 0.1mm I should get around 3.6nF.

But when I test using my cheap digital multimeter it shows 720nF and if I test using a more expensive capacitor it shows nothing (not overflow just nothing comes out). Lastly I test with an analog multimeter it shows again 720nF.

Why is the result differ $10^2$ in magnitude? Why is the expensive multimeter doesn’t give a reading?

*as a context I have test my multimeter with fan capacitor and it gave the correct reading
**the capacitor is rolled maybe that could be the issue?

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  • $\begingroup$This seems to be a question of measurement technique, which is a typical experimental physics problem. In my opinion, it isn't an "engineering" problem. I recommend to reopen this question. Also consider that the OP is a new contributor!$\endgroup$CommentedApr 16 at 1:38
  • $\begingroup$Not an answer, but... First idea is to measure paper relative permittivity,- maybe try to do that with other standard capacitor, i.e. compare capacitances vacuum/air vs paper inside , and paper relative permittivity would be $C/C_0$. Since for example wet paper, could extend relative permittivity to that of water which is about $78$. It should be in the range $2-5$ but who knows, maybe your paper is different. Also try to change to other dielectric which has $n \times $ greater permittivity than paper and see if that does change capacitance results$\endgroup$CommentedApr 16 at 12:45
  • $\begingroup$Something in your DIY capacitor is completely not right (or in the measurement procedure) since such high capacitance you could only get in case of paper would be changed into a superior insulator like lead zirconate titanate.$\endgroup$CommentedApr 16 at 12:52
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    $\begingroup$Some simple multimeters cannot measure such low capacitances on the order of a few nF. Check the instruments sensitivity. Also, you could check if the DMM measures a commercial capacitor with such a low capacitance. If the paper was wet, the capacitance would also be much higher.$\endgroup$CommentedApr 16 at 14:11

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Standard paper should have relative permittivity in the range $2-5$, so theoretical capacitance by your given DIY parallel plate capacitor parameters should be $\approx 4~nF$. Multimeters measuring capacitance with $10^2$ order of error likely indicates that measured capacitance is out of range of acceptable values. Same problem is not excluded for more expensive multimeter. So at first you need to find out measurement procedure which overcomes low capacitance measurement problem.

Suggestion is to use "Bridge Technique" to measure capacitance. Basic premise is this,- you take some capacitor with a known calibrated capacitance. Connect this in parallel with your unknown capacitor, with the help of potentiometer. Then calibrate potential drops in the left and right potentiometer arm and find-out your unknown capacitance, which is,

$$ C_X = \frac {R_1}{R_2}C_{ref} $$

In this way, you can measure unknown capacitances, be it very low or very high not supported in your capacitance measurement multimeters. And usually they are calibrated well for measuring resistances in a wide range. Detailed technique and electrical schematics is described in the above given link.

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The fact that one of your multimeters gives no reading of whatsoever, gives another idea. That your capacitor may be short-circuited. That is, maybe it's plates are too much tightly pressed towards each other or for other reasons in paper arises micro cracks, so that electrons can go through the paper micro-crack and reach other plate, in such way creating parasitic current and effectively damaging your capacitor.

To resolve and check for this issue. Try increasing number of layers of paper (strengthen dielectric) between the plates- put there $2,3,5,\ldots,$ sheets of paper and then measure capacitance with your "dead multimeter" and see if it becomes alive. If so,- the issue was capacitor plates short-circuiting.

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