Wikitech-l July 2010

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Database dumps
by Byrial Jensen 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Until some weeks ago http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html used to show 4 dumps in progress at the same time. That meant that new database dumps normally was available within about 3 weeks for all databases except for enwiki and maybe dewiki where the dump process due to size took longer time. However the 4 dumps processes at one time become 3 some weeks ago. And after massive failures at June 4, only one dump has been in progress at the same time. So at the current speed it will take several months to come thru all dumps. Is it possible to speed up the process again using several dump processes at the same time? Thank you, Byrial

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User-Agent:
by Domas Mituzas 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Hi! from now on specific per-bot/per-software/per-client User-Agent header is mandatory for contacting Wikimedia sites. Domas

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EBNF grammar project status?
by Steve Bennett 01 Apr '25

01 Apr '25

What's the status of the project to create a grammar for Wikitext in EBNF? There are two pages: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitext_Metasyntax http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec Nothing seems to have happened since January this year. Also the comments on the latter page seem to indicate a lack of clear goal: is this just a fun project, is it to improve the existing parser, or is it to facilititate a new parser? It's obviously a lot of work, so it needs to be of clear benefit. Brion requested the grammar IIRC (and there's a comment to that effect at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 ), so I'm wondering what became of it. Is there still a goal of replacing the parser? Or is there some alternative plan? Steve

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MediaWiki to Latex Converter
by Hugo Vincent 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi everyone, I recently set up a MediaWiki (http://server.bluewatersys.com/w90n740/) and I need to extra the content from it and convert it into LaTeX syntax for printed documentation. I have googled for a suitable OSS solution but nothing was apparent. I would prefer a script written in Python, but any recommendations would be very welcome. Do you know of anything suitable? Kind Regards, Hugo Vincent, Bluewater Systems.

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Backups
by Eugene 07 Nov '10

07 Nov '10

Hi everyone, Are there any updates regarding Wikipedia's backup systems? I've created a bug to track this at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18255. Cheers, Eugene

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wikipedia is one of the slower sites on the web
by jidanni＠jidanni.org 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Seems to me playing the role of the average dumb user, that en.wikipedia.org is one of the rather slow websites of the many websites I browse. No matter what browser, it takes more seconds from the time I click on a link to the time when the first bytes of the HTTP response start flowing back to me. Seems facebook is more zippy. Maybe Mediawiki is not "optimized".

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Showing bytes added/removed in each edit in "View history" and "User contributions"
by Jason Spiro 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Hi all. "Recent changes" shows bytes added/removed in green/red. But "View history" only shows revision length in bytes, and "User contributions" shows no byte counts at all. I think it would be nice for both "View history"[1] and "User contributions" to show bytes added/removed. This would make it easier to distinguish between small contributions from big ones: between multiple-sentence additions and small typo fixes. What do you think? All the best, -Jason ^ [1]. You can already get bytes added/removed to history revisions using a gadget. Just add the following line to your vector.js: importScript('fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-HistoryNumDiff.js');

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serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live
by Glanthor 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Hi! I've read on the techblog that the new UI go live in April. I have some questions: 1) What version? Acai, babaco, citron? 2) How/where could a wiki customize the special character insert menu, and the inserted strings? And the embed file (picture) button inserts this: "[[Example.jpg]]", without any "File:" or "Image:"! 3) The search and replace button is available in firefox, but does not appear at all in opera. Why? 4) Currently the new navigable TOC does not work on FF/Opera at all (I've tried those). Not too early for live deployment? Regards, Akos Szabo (Glanthor Reviol)

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CellsExtension feasibility?
by James Bowery 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

If you install: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VariablesExtension#Installation Then edit the main page to contain the following (between the '---'): --- {{#vardefine:pi|3.14159265418}} {{#expr:{{#var:pi}}+1}} --- The main page should, when rendered, now, show the number 4.14159265418 What I would like is something very similar called "CellsExtension" which provides only the keyword "#cell" as in: --- {{#expr:{{#cell:pi}}+1}} --- However, it gets the value of "pi" from: http://somedomain.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Pi Ideally, whenever a mediawiki rendered page is cached, dependency pointers are created from all pages from which cells fetched values during rendering of the page (implying the evaluation of #expr's. That way, when the mediawiki source for one of the cached pages is edited, not only is its cached rendering deleted, but so are all cached renderings that depend on it directly or indirectly. This is so that the next time those pages are accessed, they are rendered -- and cached -- again, freshly evaluating the formulas in the #expr's (which, of course, will contain #cell references such as {{#cell:pi}}).

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Storing data across requests
by Bryan Tong Minh 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Hi, I have been working on getting asynchronous upload from url to work properly[1]. A problem that I encountered was that I need to store data across requests. Normally I would use $_SESSION, but this data should also be available to job runners, and $_SESSION isn't. As I see there are basically two ways to get a data store. The first is to store the objects in the DB using wfGetCache( CACHE_DB ); I'm not sure though whether it is meant to be used this way. Alternatively I could revive my staged-upload work. In this branch, all so called stashed uploads, uploads that require user intervention before they can be completed have their meta data stored in the database instead of in the session. That would be still quite a lot of work though. Or is there any other mechanism to be able to share data between the jobqueue and requests? Regards, Bryan [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/btongminh?offse…

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